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[Eca]

I have a possessed club which is the PW in my new set. It's short, hefty, everything just felt wrong so I either grip down on a 9 or jump on my GW. Finally had it
Checked, should be a D3 & it's a D7. There's obviously a limit to what I can handle with full swing.

@ vegaman re comment about myth of GI. I think anyone who is a decent ball
Striker can handle the newer blades. The accuracy & consistency is really cool. I had a GI before here my 8i can go 140m to 160m on well struck shots. My blade on well struck is 135-140. There is that almost taboo thing about blades unless ur practically scratch. Blade is blade & the design really is just classic with very little variations compared to cavities. Some GI's are starting to look like from outer space & the designs & supposed technology advances make them very marketable to the masses. So i doubt you will see many blades being advertised on tv :) & so the myth continues...

Edited by Eca, 22 December 2011 - 01:48 AM.

[Vegaman]

Eca, on 22 December 2011 - 01:47 AM, said:

I have a possessed club which is the PW in my new set. It's short, hefty, everything just felt wrong so I either grip down on a 9 or jump on my GW. Finally had it
Checked, should be a D3 & it's a D7. There's obviously a limit to what I can handle with full swing.

@ vegaman re comment about myth of GI. I think anyone who is a decent ball
Striker can handle the newer blades. The accuracy & consistency is really cool. I had a GI before here my 8i can go 140m to 160m on well struck shots. My blade on well struck is 135-140. There is that almost taboo thing about blades unless ur practically scratch. Blade is blade & the design really is just classic with very little variations compared to cavities. Some GI's are starting to look like from outer space & the designs & supposed technology advances make them very marketable to the masses. So i doubt you will see many blades being advertised on tv :) & so the myth continues...

Aha, interesting stuff about your SW experience there. Yeah, I was thinking the newer, "modern" blades like the VEGAs I have might be a lot easier than the traditional stuff. My buddies today were very sceptical when they saw my new sticks today, and they were saying things like "Are you sure you have the game to bag these Musclebacks?" But like i wrote, I hd no problem with these. The consistency might be very true, and I also have felt that I hardly know where to place the ball at adress with large oversize clubs. i've been through various stuff and weirdly, these smaller blades feel easier to aim with, and they sit very well behind the ball somehow..Lost one ball today, and that was after a crooked drive, ha ha.

[Eca]

Vegaman, on 22 December 2011 - 04:52 AM, said:

Aha, interesting stuff about your SW experience there. Yeah, I was thinking the newer, "modern" blades like the VEGAs I have might be a lot easier than the traditional stuff. My buddies today were very sceptical when they saw my new sticks today, and they were saying things like "Are you sure you have the game to bag these Musclebacks?" But like i wrote, I hd no problem with these. The consistency might be very true, and I also have felt that I hardly know where to place the ball at adress with large oversize clubs. i've been through various stuff and weirdly, these smaller blades feel easier to aim with, and they sit very well behind the ball somehow..Lost one ball today, and that was after a crooked drive, ha ha.

You just nailed it in the head with "I hardly know where to place the ball at adress with large oversize clubs." The builder handed Jonathan and I an Adams CB (apparently John Daleys heads someone scored) and a KZG CBs with lighter swingweights for me to check. Gotten so used to the LE Blades and i did experience that addressing problem. I was like your friends though in 2010 when i met someone around 10 hcp using blades. I recall saying/asking the same things. Next thing you know, i joined the bandwagon.

[Shambles]

Many years ago I stuck 3 grams of lead on the flange of each of my Ping ISI-K's to get the feel of my over long Eye 2's that I was trying to stop using. The standard irons were zero weight in my hands and made me swing much too fast. The added weight had the effect on me of calming my swing down because I was used to the heavier feel of overly extended clubs. I gained no distance, got the ball flying higher a bit, but did have better control because of a more relaxed organized swing. I also got more backspin because it became a lot easier for me to swing through the ball with a good follow through. It also developed a funny sound that I describe as hitting something with a pillow. I played that set that way for almost two years after which I removed the lead because I had learned to lighten my grip on the clubs thereby allowing me to better feel the head during the swing and get the same results.

On me, longer shafts had the effect of forcing me to swing with more deliberate pace and I have grown to prefer this way so that I now still use much the same pace with standard length shafts. I think less overall weight and shorter shafts allows me greater flexibility in adjusting my swing though it does require a bit more swing speed. I just have to pay more attention to where the ball sits when I swing at the ball.

I doubt the greater swing weight is any real advantage.

Shambles

[Vegaman]

Shambles, on 22 December 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

Many years ago I stuck 3 grams of lead on the flange of each of my Ping ISI-K's to get the feel of my over long Eye 2's that I was trying to stop using. The standard irons were zero weight in my hands and made me swing much too fast. The added weight had the effect on me of calming my swing down because I was used to the heavier feel of overly extended clubs. I gained no distance, got the ball flying higher a bit, but did have better control because of a more relaxed organized swing. I also got more backspin because it became a lot easier for me to swing through the ball with a good follow through. It also developed a funny sound that I describe as hitting something with a pillow. I played that set that way for almost two years after which I removed the lead because I had learned to lighten my grip on the clubs thereby allowing me to better feel the head during the swing and get the same results.

On me, longer shafts had the effect of forcing me to swing with more deliberate pace and I have grown to prefer this way so that I now still use much the same pace with standard length shafts. I think less overall weight and shorter shafts allows me greater flexibility in adjusting my swing though it does require a bit more swing speed. I just have to pay more attention to where the ball sits when I swing at the ball.

I doubt the greater swing weight is any real advantage.

Shambles

I agree with your last statement, but I'm just a pleasantly surprised it didn't bring any real and noticable disadvantage.

[charge]

Once heard that even amongst the pros on a blind folded test, only Greg Norman could tell the difference in 1 swingweight point.

[Shambles]

VEGAMAN,

If there was a disadvantage I failed to notice because I was in the midst of trying to make my clubs feel right for my hands rather than just experimenting for greater performance. I was very interested in modifying the set for personal comfort and am fairly certain I neither gained nor lost distance. Accuracy improved but that was because of a more relaxed swing rather than the club itself. Of all the people who tried my set I'm pretty sure I was the only one who liked it. Rather indicative, I think.


Shambles

[EdGolf]

I think Vega heads are traditionally heavier. Any pictures of your baby?

[Vegaman]

EdGolf, on 28 December 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

I think Vega heads are traditionally heavier. Any pictures of your baby?

I'm out and about working at the moment, but will post pictures when I get back home in about a weeks time!

[Shambles]

I got used to heavy clubs when I played over long irons for some years. I got so used to it that when I bought a new set at standard length, I added 3 grams per head to get back some of the feel of my old set. Took me a bit more than a year before I removed the lead to try truly standard clubs again.

For me the heavy heads gave no real advantage, just calmed my swing down. I had to learn to hold my clubs more lightly to feel the head of a standard head.


Shambles

[Vegaman]

Changed shafts the other day, to Nippon 1150 tours. Noticably lighter and less "physical" feel now. Have only hit them on the range, will play 18 holes tomorrow. Had a change because I feel that if i play a few days in a row I get really tired at the end of the round..And i have a feeling it's the high SW that wears me out at the end of every round. ESPECIALLY if I have a bad day ballstriking wise.