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[Robb40]

From his rationale the harder I swing with the lighter shaft it increases launch. Both outings seem to support this. My carry was good but there was little rollout at all. Yes my swing speed has increased but with a 102-106 swing speed it does not work. Tario talked me out of a Royal D Crazy due to my aggressive transition and SS. From the advice I have received a 65 to 70 gram shaft would fit my swing better and allow me to achieve a better launch angle. I am glad you like the Miya Black. I think the reason it failed for me was the 1/2 inch tipping that was done before I purchased it. The Black according to Miyazaki reps should not be tipped. Miyazaki actually advises people to not tip their shafts period. Who knows a non tipped Miya Black may be the way to go. I am afraid to tip the Indigo because they are hard to resale when you start chopping them.

[wmclarenf1]

Hi Robb,

I think it is not so much the weight but the kick point and kick pionts of heavier shafts generally are higher than light weight shafts which help with keeping the ball flight down a bit. With a more aggressive swing, the heavier weight, lower torque and added stoutness may help but weight in itself I do not think affect ball flight.

I'm finding the Black to play stiifer to flex. Will try to run-it in at the range for a while more but if that does not work, I may need to switch out to the DI-5 I have in my Epon. I just can;t load the Black consistently enough throughout the round but on good hits, the launch is mid low and it rolls like mad and on courses in my part of the world with the heavy rain of late, that is very good. This is defnitely the shaft for those looking to lower launch and spin. the feel however is good for a stout shaft. And the Ryoma head feels and sounds very very solid.

I let an aspiring amateur playing off a 6 hit the combo a couple of nights back to help run-in the shaft and every shot (no kidding, every shot) was a gentle draw and longer than his R11 Ozik setup which TM fit him out with. I reckon if I had a stiff Black in there, he could swing as per normal and get more out of it.

[Robb40]

Thanks for the input. I keep coming back to a GD ad-di. I think the 6s or 7s would work. I don't know why these are listed as high launch shafts because I see more of a mid launch from the 7s in my 3 wood. The Miya black is as listed, low and low. I had one in an R11 and it was by far the best combo. Now I must admit that is was not a smooth feeling shaft. The Indigo is smoother.

[TourSpecGolfer]

I'm swinging just over 100mph now days. 7.2 feels very stout to me.

[Robb40]

Oh yes I agree on the Crazy 7.2. It was too stiff for me when I really think about the sessions with it. I top out at 105-106 so a 6.9 or 6.7 is where I need to be. If I knew the crazy would dramatically change this heads performance I would order one. Several regulars from this site have PM me and let their true feelings be known. I am not a wealthy man so dropping $500 on a shaft just for a slightly better feel or a feeling of exclusivity is not worth it to me. I am trying to salvage the head because it has many qualities that I like over any other that I have tried. Most golfers that I play with have stock shafts in all of their woods. I am already an enigma because I do not.

[wmclarenf1]

Robb40, on 03 January 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Several regulars from this site have PM me and let their true feelings be known. I am not a wealthy man so dropping $500 on a shaft just for a slightly better feel or a feeling of exclusivity is not worth it to me.

That is interesting to hear Robb. And yes, I think you have put in quite a bit into this club already. I say if you really want to keep the head, go back to a shaft you are familiar with and has worked for you. That way, you can really see if the head is better. I've just done that with the Ryoma V-Spec last night. Will have a couple of range sessions and a round this weekend to see if the V Spec lives up to the hype but from what I have seen so far with the Black, the head design gives better distance and forgiveness than the AF 101.

[Robb40]

That is good to hear. I believe in the JDM quality. Again the Crazy 460 head is a keeper for many reasons but there are so many great shafts available for so much less. I am not a JDM basher. The quality is second to none. I believe they make heads as forgiving and long as any out there. But when you start talking about $600 to $950 shafts I have to pause and consider everything that is available. Yes the head was a big leap of faith but so far it has given me hope that it is a super forgiving,great to look at and as long as anything out there so far. Keep me posted on your Ryoma. I may have dumped the Ryoma too quickly due to the stiff 7.2 shaft. I am trying to resist the 10. prem on here.