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[Eca]

Hiya C, great stuff man! If u can get a hold of the matrix Altus, gr8 hb shaft. I pulled mine from an Adams Pro-gold.

[Spoon]

Eca, on 14 October 2011 - 02:15 AM, said:

Hiya C, great stuff man! If u can get a hold of the matrix Altus, gr8 hb shaft. I pulled mine from an Adams Pro-gold.

ah i had those did not like the boxer shape of the head nor the altus shaft.
i find the altus one of the worst feeling shafts. even the f6/f7m2s on my woods
had the same brittle feel.

[potuna]

Best hybrid I've found is the Taylormade TP 09 19 with a Fubuki hybrid shaft. Long and straight.

[Eca]

Spoon, on 14 October 2011 - 04:22 AM, said:

ah i had those did not like the boxer shape of the head nor the altus shaft.
i find the altus one of the worst feeling shafts. even the f6/f7m2s on my woods
had the same brittle feel.

The boxer shape didn't agree with me but the shaft did. The peanut is something of interest definitely. Love the shape. The f*m2 series I haven't tried.

[Spoon]

Eca, on 14 October 2011 - 11:54 PM, said:

The boxer shape didn't agree with me but the shaft did. The peanut is something of interest definitely. Love the shape. The f*m2 series I haven't tried.

I made the pnt 2heavier, playing the longer 41 shaft in 18 deg
Sw d3.5 wow. I did not need a 3wood at all. Was using it off the tee and the
Di95s feels like a different beast altogether. I could possibly be hitting this longer
Than any hybrid I have ever owned, maybe even longer than my 3w.

I may look for another head in 16 and use it as my 3w. Will play at 43 tour ad di8s,
Heavy head 230grams. Seriously if this works which I am sure it will, will be longer
Than any 3 w I have ever had BUT much much easier. Head is so so oh so small and
Cute.

Sold godsie my 16 and he absolutely swears by it. He's has it or 2-3 years? Can't wait for the
Combo! Got a RC 16 fw and a ryoma 15.5 coming and can't wait to do another 3 way shootout!

[Eca]

Spoon, on 15 October 2011 - 12:26 AM, said:

I made the pnt 2heavier, playing the longer 41 shaft in 18 deg
Sw d3.5 wow. I did not need a 3wood at all. Was using it off the tee and the
Di95s feels like a different beast altogether. I could possibly be hitting this longer
Than any hybrid I have ever owned, maybe even longer than my 3w.

I may look for another head in 16 and use it as my 3w. Will play at 43 tour ad di8s,
Heavy head 230grams. Seriously if this works which I am sure it will, will be longer
Than any 3 w I have ever had BUT much much easier. Head is so so oh so small and
Cute.

Sold godsie my 16 and he absolutely swears by it. He's has it or 2-3 years? Can't wait for the
Combo! Got a RC 16 fw and a ryoma 15.5 coming and can't wait to do another 3 way shootout!

Looking forward to that shootout C. What u shafting the ryoma with?

[Spoon]

Eca, on 15 October 2011 - 05:27 AM, said:

Looking forward to that shootout C. What u shafting the ryoma with?

Probably another di8. I absolutely love this shaft!
Or another contender would be the p9003x, I still
Have faith that that shaft will redeem itself

[RIduffer]

Spoon, on 15 October 2011 - 06:51 AM, said:

Probably another di8. I absolutely love this shaft!
Or another contender would be the p9003x, I still
Have faith that that shaft will redeem itself

You gonna buy another P9003x?

I think you should go all out with the Ryoma and put a Crazy FW shaft in....

[Spoon]

RIduffer, on 15 October 2011 - 12:02 PM, said:

You gonna buy another P9003x?

I think you should go all out with the Ryoma and put a Crazy FW shaft in....

Maybe, but most likely I will be happy with the di8. Its real heavy but has
The flex of a 70gram shaft. Perfect

[zwan]

Really enjoyed reading your hybrid comparison. Keep up the great work!
By the way went through my old rejected clubs bag and found the same Wishon hybrid 321 18°! I will definately give it a revitalising try tomorrow and see if I can hit it better than I previously had been doing...
The shaft is a bit stout though - MFS Matrix in S - but I'll see how it goes.

Spoon, on 16 October 2011 - 12:46 AM, said:

Maybe, but most likely I will be happy with the di8. Its real heavy but has
The flex of a 70gram shaft. Perfect

Edited by zwan, 17 October 2011 - 01:51 AM.

[Spoon]

RIduffer, on 13 October 2011 - 10:43 AM, said:

Based on that it would seem you rate the RC over the Epon, making my decision even easier... Guess I'll have to wait for a different club to try my first Epon....

actually come to think of it, i will give the Epon another shot. i cannot believe that all this tech
and RD did not work for me the first time around. will try the 20 with a crazy black utility shaft.
unsure wether i should go S or X. torques seem on the high side. would have preferred a 90grammer

the Di 95s i am currently using is low torque and 10g heavier than crazy black ute

[RIduffer]

Spoon, on 17 October 2011 - 03:58 AM, said:

actually come to think of it, i will give the Epon another shot. i cannot believe that all this tech
and RD did not work for me the first time around. will try the 20 with a crazy black utility shaft.
unsure wether i should go S or X. torques seem on the high side. would have preferred a 90grammer

the Di 95s i am currently using is low torque and 10g heavier than crazy black ute

Can't talk the Ute shaft stiffness, but my experience is as follows with each being rated at 8.2 on the Crazy scale

FW 50 Sigma is the stoutest of the ones I play and seems similar to the P9003x in overall stiffness. I do not always need to go after the ball to get it square, but I cannot let off too much without watching the ball fade unexpectedly...
FW 80 Black is a sweet swinger and I do not worry about letting off or going at it. This has a higher ball flight the 50 Sigma in my opinion, but that might be because of the flex.

[supo67]

ive been using those a12 adams with the altus shaft in 20 + 23 *
it feels awful tingy and just plain ugly

but
it gets the job done wonderfully


small draws, bang on 200and 220 yards
they are low tho, i cant hang off one , gotta swing thru ,right thru it or the results are catasrtophic
hate having these in palce of my JDM but i cant fault them
whats a man to do huh???????

i do have one GIGANTIC problem tho
i have 2 crazy ute shafts in some TEE utes in 16* 18* that i want to use. the utes arnt long enough to take the place of the 5w. and 18* is an in between club, doesnt really serve any purpose all thing being equal

do itake these out and put them in the adams heads
i guess i prob shud considering how well im hitting them.
but then agn the altus .. if its not broken . dont fix it.

[Spoon]

supo67, on 18 October 2011 - 12:30 AM, said:

ive been using those a12 adams with the altus shaft in 20 + 23 *
it feels awful tingy and just plain ugly

but
it gets the job done wonderfully


small draws, bang on 200and 220 yards
they are low tho, i cant hang off one , gotta swing thru ,right thru it or the results are catasrtophic
hate having these in palce of my JDM but i cant fault them
whats a man to do huh???????

i do have one GIGANTIC problem tho
i have 2 crazy ute shafts in some TEE utes in 16* 18* that i want to use. the utes arnt long enough to take the place of the 5w. and 18* is an in between club, doesnt really serve any purpose all thing being equal

do itake these out and put them in the adams heads
i guess i prob shud considering how well im hitting them.
but then agn the altus .. if its not broken . dont fix it.

i hear you! my adams is the odd ball in my pure jdm bag. it should be booted out
based on origin but it works, i have no qualms replacing it with the next jdm hybrid
of similar physique.

i had a disastrous utterly disastrous day today with my 4 wood experiment. 2 months ago
i had some success with my DI8s in my interim ping k15 played at d3 43', it was bloody long
but being a SGI club it was closed faced and draw biased. that translated to some major draws
so i pulled the head out, it felt alright but i liked the balance and feel of the club.

fast forward to last weekend i had an adams speedline tour only 17* shafted with a machline fw65
played at 43" my gosh that thing was bloody long but found the shaft on the lighter side so being
the restless tinkerer i pulled the shaft and decided to play the di8s, cant go wrong right? well everything
that could possibly go wrong happened. was a domino effect that ruined my entire afternoon.

same length at 43" the club felt like a macedonian war axe! i had no time to get the swing weight or the
specs but i could defintely feel the heft. first couple of holes were ok, had to adjust and put in a nice slow
tempo but by the fourth hole i was swinging beyond my tempo and every ball i tried to slay felt like a
saracen! the static weight of this axe was just a burden. infected my tempo for the remaining part of my
round, game over!

perplexed, do some muddling and find out that the damn weight plug on the head is a tour issue tungsten
25g weight. stock is 2 and 4 grams. combine that with the titanic di8s and you have a club Thor would be
proud off. dont know what the next move is. pulling the combo tomorrow.

you know what you can do with those utes shafts? give them a go with the Epon 18* ute play it longer length. i might
revisit that route for now as the ryoma FWs are delayed til november.

[Spoon]

after gaming a beautiful 4+ BBD type H 16* i have effectively
removed the need for a 3/5 wood combination. the 16 is long
off the tee, has the height and is also forgiving from the fairway.

now i already mentioned the di95s is on the heavy side and paired
with the heavy 18* adams is honestly a heavy combo after getting
the perfect weighting on the 4w 70 gm shaft, the hybrid is suddenly so
heavy.

also the 18* off the tee is amazing, but the 16* 4 wood does the job much
higher and longer. also the 18 is not the easiest thing to hit from the fairway
so after getting the 4w right, the 18 suddenly seems redundant.

next move is probably an epon 21* with crazy utility shaft.

[supo67]

Yes indeed

[RIduffer]

Spoon, on 20 October 2011 - 01:46 AM, said:

after gaming a beautiful 4+ BBD type H 16* i have effectively
removed the need for a 3/5 wood combination. the 16 is long
off the tee, has the height and is also forgiving from the fairway.

now i already mentioned the di95s is on the heavy side and paired
with the heavy 18* adams is honestly a heavy combo after getting
the perfect weighting on the 4w 70 gm shaft, the hybrid is suddenly so
heavy.

also the 18* off the tee is amazing, but the 16* 4 wood does the job much
higher and longer. also the 18 is not the easiest thing to hit from the fairway
so after getting the 4w right, the 18 suddenly seems redundant.

next move is probably an epon 21* with crazy utility shaft.

So is the 18* going back to dad?

[Spoon]

RIduffer, on 20 October 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

So is the 18* going back to dad?

Nope, he has the epon 18 already.
The Adams w di95s is a great club
Don't want to break that combo up.

She will be posted in the fs section soon.
A club like that will be better suited for a
Power hitter. No need for a 5 w with that
One.