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Looking forward to that shootout C. What u shafting the ryoma with?


Probably another di8. I absolutely love this shaft!
Or another contender would be the p9003x, I still
Have faith that that shaft will redeem itself
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Probably another di8. I absolutely love this shaft!
Or another contender would be the p9003x, I still
Have faith that that shaft will redeem itself

You gonna buy another P9003x?

I think you should go all out with the Ryoma and put a Crazy FW shaft in....
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You gonna buy another P9003x?

I think you should go all out with the Ryoma and put a Crazy FW shaft in....


Maybe, but most likely I will be happy with the di8. Its real heavy but has
The flex of a 70gram shaft. Perfect
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Really enjoyed reading your hybrid comparison. Keep up the great work!
By the way went through my old rejected clubs bag and found the same Wishon hybrid 321 18°! I will definately give it a revitalising try tomorrow and see if I can hit it better than I previously had been doing...
The shaft is a bit stout though - MFS Matrix in S - but I'll see how it goes.


Maybe, but most likely I will be happy with the di8. Its real heavy but has
The flex of a 70gram shaft. Perfect


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Based on that it would seem you rate the RC over the Epon, making my decision even easier... Guess I'll have to wait for a different club to try my first Epon....


actually come to think of it, i will give the Epon another shot. i cannot believe that all this tech
and RD did not work for me the first time around. will try the 20 with a crazy black utility shaft.
unsure wether i should go S or X. torques seem on the high side. would have preferred a 90grammer

the Di 95s i am currently using is low torque and 10g heavier than crazy black ute
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actually come to think of it, i will give the Epon another shot. i cannot believe that all this tech
and RD did not work for me the first time around. will try the 20 with a crazy black utility shaft.
unsure wether i should go S or X. torques seem on the high side. would have preferred a 90grammer

the Di 95s i am currently using is low torque and 10g heavier than crazy black ute
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Can't talk the Ute shaft stiffness, but my experience is as follows with each being rated at 8.2 on the Crazy scale

FW 50 Sigma is the stoutest of the ones I play and seems similar to the P9003x in overall stiffness. I do not always need to go after the ball to get it square, but I cannot let off too much without watching the ball fade unexpectedly...
FW 80 Black is a sweet swinger and I do not worry about letting off or going at it. This has a higher ball flight the 50 Sigma in my opinion, but that might be because of the flex.
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ive been using those a12 adams with the altus shaft in 20 + 23 *
it feels awful tingy and just plain ugly

but
it gets the job done wonderfully


small draws, bang on 200and 220 yards
they are low tho, i cant hang off one , gotta swing thru ,right thru it or the results are catasrtophic
hate having these in palce of my JDM but i cant fault them
whats a man to do huh???????

i do have one GIGANTIC problem tho
i have 2 crazy ute shafts in some TEE utes in 16* 18* that i want to use. the utes arnt long enough to take the place of the 5w. and 18* is an in between club, doesnt really serve any purpose all thing being equal

do itake these out and put them in the adams heads
i guess i prob shud considering how well im hitting them.
but then agn the altus .. if its not broken . dont fix it.
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Pr-Gr MFD egg spoon 16.5*---Qaudra fire express 75xs

Honma tw-u 21* DI---NS950s.

Pr-GR tr 500---TT monacco satin S.

fourteen mt-28 ptototype 51 */56.6*--NS WV 125 s

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ive been using those a12 adams with the altus shaft in 20 + 23 *
it feels awful tingy and just plain ugly

but
it gets the job done wonderfully


small draws, bang on 200and 220 yards
they are low tho, i cant hang off one , gotta swing thru ,right thru it or the results are catasrtophic
hate having these in palce of my JDM but i cant fault them
whats a man to do huh???????

i do have one GIGANTIC problem tho
i have 2 crazy ute shafts in some TEE utes in 16* 18* that i want to use. the utes arnt long enough to take the place of the 5w. and 18* is an in between club, doesnt really serve any purpose all thing being equal

do itake these out and put them in the adams heads
i guess i prob shud considering how well im hitting them.
but then agn the altus .. if its not broken . dont fix it.



i hear you! my adams is the odd ball in my pure jdm bag. it should be booted out
based on origin but it works, i have no qualms replacing it with the next jdm hybrid
of similar physique.

i had a disastrous utterly disastrous day today with my 4 wood experiment. 2 months ago
i had some success with my DI8s in my interim ping k15 played at d3 43', it was bloody long
but being a SGI club it was closed faced and draw biased. that translated to some major draws
so i pulled the head out, it felt alright but i liked the balance and feel of the club.

fast forward to last weekend i had an adams speedline tour only 17* shafted with a machline fw65
played at 43" my gosh that thing was bloody long but found the shaft on the lighter side so being
the restless tinkerer i pulled the shaft and decided to play the di8s, cant go wrong right? well everything
that could possibly go wrong happened. was a domino effect that ruined my entire afternoon.

same length at 43" the club felt like a macedonian war axe! i had no time to get the swing weight or the
specs but i could defintely feel the heft. first couple of holes were ok, had to adjust and put in a nice slow
tempo but by the fourth hole i was swinging beyond my tempo and every ball i tried to slay felt like a
saracen! the static weight of this axe was just a burden. infected my tempo for the remaining part of my
round, game over!

perplexed, do some muddling and find out that the damn weight plug on the head is a tour issue tungsten
25g weight. stock is 2 and 4 grams. combine that with the titanic di8s and you have a club Thor would be
proud off. dont know what the next move is. pulling the combo tomorrow.

you know what you can do with those utes shafts? give them a go with the Epon 18* ute play it longer length. i might
revisit that route for now as the ryoma FWs are delayed til november.
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after gaming a beautiful 4+ BBD type H 16* i have effectively
removed the need for a 3/5 wood combination. the 16 is long
off the tee, has the height and is also forgiving from the fairway.

now i already mentioned the di95s is on the heavy side and paired
with the heavy 18* adams is honestly a heavy combo after getting
the perfect weighting on the 4w 70 gm shaft, the hybrid is suddenly so
heavy.

also the 18* off the tee is amazing, but the 16* 4 wood does the job much
higher and longer. also the 18 is not the easiest thing to hit from the fairway
so after getting the 4w right, the 18 suddenly seems redundant.

next move is probably an epon 21* with crazy utility shaft.
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after gaming a beautiful 4+ BBD type H 16* i have effectively
removed the need for a 3/5 wood combination. the 16 is long
off the tee, has the height and is also forgiving from the fairway.

now i already mentioned the di95s is on the heavy side and paired
with the heavy 18* adams is honestly a heavy combo after getting
the perfect weighting on the 4w 70 gm shaft, the hybrid is suddenly so
heavy.

also the 18* off the tee is amazing, but the 16* 4 wood does the job much
higher and longer. also the 18 is not the easiest thing to hit from the fairway
so after getting the 4w right, the 18 suddenly seems redundant.

next move is probably an epon 21* with crazy utility shaft.

So is the 18* going back to dad?
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So is the 18* going back to dad?


Nope, he has the epon 18 already.
The Adams w di95s is a great club
Don't want to break that combo up.

She will be posted in the fs section soon.
A club like that will be better suited for a
Power hitter. No need for a 5 w with that
One.
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a lot of things can happen in 3 weeks,
3 weeks seems like an eternity to anyone
whos used to tinkering with their clubs, i have succumbed
at last! discovered a lot of things about my swing and that
im better with certain kinds of gear than others.

first of all all the hybrids are gone, been picked off, donated and
sold to others who will find better use of it than me. in the very
sense of the word a hybrid term here has been generalized, combining
the advantages of an iron with the more forgiving nature of a wood.
it is a different animal altogether , while they work for most they certainly
do not work for me.

In the past months i have owned the onoff ute, yamaha, trc RC, epon 902
adams etc etc, none of them lasted a month in my bag, thinking it was me,
i went on a tireless search for the perfect ute, and finally i found it. The DRIVING IRON!!!

i find that i am awkward, clumsy when i pull the
hybrid out of the bag. so i just left it out of the bag and started using my
trusty epon 901 22 bent 21 with steel! wow awesome, better than any ute i have tried
works for me , i can hit it like all my irons and its freakin long! better yet its my go to club.
recently reshafted with a shimada tour lite s. like dragons fire been breathed into the club,
totally different beast, very user friendly and strong aggressive trajectory.

driver-4w-22!! 22* go to club, maestro maestro! made sense to get an 18* which is exactly
what i did, ordered the srixon 18 z uti and will shaft it with a crazy black ute, for now i have
a 901 19* bent to 18* shafted with my new TOUR ad DI-85S. i think this will be better than the
heavy pole-like feel of my di-95s, that felt like a px 7.5 steel seriously. no flex no rebound no game!

while im at it i will also do a head to head test between the new kid (18 srix 18 pimpin the new crazy black ute)
vs the veterano 901 w tour proven DI hybrid shaft. real excited. not wanting to be left out of the party senor PRGR REP will join
the and contribute his much anticipated skills . stay tuned

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Good luck with the new old path...
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