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[bogeydog]

Anyone playing or have played/tested one of these or other super high end shafts? If so, what was it, what setup did you have and what were the results/opinions?

[gocchin]

Here is a Quadra review: http://www.tourspecgolf.com/forum/index.ph...st&p=157001

Keep in mind also that the amount of buyers for these shafts through TSG is very small as so many of these brands are unknown to most and very pricey, and then the ones who buy don't necessarily frequent the forum. I know we have sold 15+ Crazy shafts and at least 10 Quadras in the past year.

[bogeydog]

G,

Have you tested the Crazy Shaft Longest Yard shaft yet? I think you commented sometime you were going to.

[supo67]

bogeydog, on Jan 18 2010, 05:54 AM, said:

Anyone playing or have played/tested one of these or other super high end shafts? If so, what was it, what setup did you have and what were the results/opinions?

i have 2 qauddra fire express a 65 xs and a 65 s . i use these in rotation witha a tour ad ev6x ive tried them all in lots of differnt heads. this is whats stayed constant for the last 4 months tho. the quaddra XS is in the adams 9015d and for a good reason ,its long , easily my longest driver. i take this out when i m uber confident. the XS gives it such a lovely "sting" its got a much less rubbery feel to it but its got that sling shot feel and it doesnt warp or slide or slice or overly hook. i can shape the ball well ,the movement is not egzaserbated ,i can go as hard as i like with it with total confidence. compared to the S which is a bit softer i can def feel the softer flex, i get a little more shape to my shots with the S but i dont like that soft feel as much. i prefer the XS due to its stiffness . NOW in the diablo head ive put a a tour ad ev6X and this is my straightest driver, its a very stiff , steel like feel at impact. very straight can go super hard and the fade or draw is very small. overall the best feel is the quaddra XS its expensive but i like that differnce it gives , just the ability to hit the ball hard with controlled fades or draws with out fear of loosing it miles. its just above the tour ad but they both have a spot. if i cud have only one id take the quadda and put it in the diablo. but luickily i dont have to make that choice.

[TourSpecGolfer]

supo67, on Jan 28 2010, 10:31 AM, said:

i have 2 qauddra fire express a 65 xs and a 65 s . i use these in rotation witha a tour ad ev6x ive tried them all in lots of differnt heads. this is whats stayed constant for the last 4 months tho. the quaddra XS is in the adams 9015d and for a good reason ,its long , easily my longest driver. i take this out when i m uber confident. the XS gives it such a lovely "sting" its got a much less rubbery feel to it but its got that sling shot feel and it doesnt warp or slide or slice or overly hook. i can shape the ball well ,the movement is not egzaserbated ,i can go as hard as i like with it with total confidence. compared to the S which is a bit softer i can def feel the softer flex, i get a little more shape to my shots with the S but i dont like that soft feel as much. i prefer the XS due to its stiffness . NOW in the diablo head ive put a a tour ad ev6X and this is my straightest driver, its a very stiff , steel like feel at impact. very straight can go super hard and the fade or draw is very small. overall the best feel is the quaddra XS its expensive but i like that differnce it gives , just the ability to hit the ball hard with controlled fades or draws with out fear of loosing it miles. its just above the tour ad but they both have a spot. if i cud have only one id take the quadda and put it in the diablo. but luickily i dont have to make that choice.

Great Review! The ability to swing harder with a tighter result is thanks to the 80 ton carbon. Thanks for your post please keep us posted on any new findings.

[EPONfreak]

Agreed, fantastic feedback, I'm envious of your arsenal! Would you mind letting us know your SS and swing tempo? I'm going to get the Fire express in the next Epon driver released.

Chris, I note the comment in the proshop that the CPM measurements are based on a 7" clamp. Does this make the CPM higher or lower compared to 'western' CPM ratings?

[supo67]

TMfreak, on Jan 28 2010, 04:16 PM, said:

Agreed, fantastic feedback, I'm envious of your arsenal! Would you mind letting us know your SS and swing tempo? I'm going to get the Fire express in the next Epon driver released.

Chris, I note the comment in the proshop that the CPM measurements are based on a 7" clamp. Does this make the CPM higher or lower compared to 'western' CPM ratings?

hmmm i tihnk 105-110 mph and i asked my playing partner about tempo this is what he said..., smoothback slow trasnsition smooth down, i weigh 102 kilos and drive the ball about 285+ thoroughrecomend the qaudra ive had it in the diablo tour, akira m109, erc3, and the adams, which now is where it suits best. i have the S in my erc3 now but its not a str8 as the diamana blue 65s i have in another erc3 head. BUT as i sad i can move the ball more, its a great shaft i just bought the S first when i shud have got the SX .

[EPONfreak]

thanks, that helps a lot, my SS at 113 and distance are similar to yours. I have played X-Flex shafts for the past 5 years and was thinking of backing off to S flex but your thoughts have helped me to decide on SX.

[TourSpecGolfer]

TMfreak, on Jan 29 2010, 01:16 AM, said:

Agreed, fantastic feedback, I'm envious of your arsenal! Would you mind letting us know your SS and swing tempo? I'm going to get the Fire express in the next Epon driver released.

Chris, I note the comment in the proshop that the CPM measurements are based on a 7" clamp. Does this make the CPM higher or lower compared to 'western' CPM ratings?

It makes the CPM's higher. In the U.S we use 5" in most cases.

[EPONfreak]

TourSpecGolfer, on Jan 29 2010, 03:13 PM, said:

It makes the CPM's higher. In the U.S we use 5" in most cases.

thanks Chris, I would be interested in knowing the CPM based on a 5" clamp of the fire express 65 X-flex and SX-flex if you know them?

[gocchin]

Typically the 7" clamp can make CPM's higher anywhere from 10-15cpm but there are many variables that affect this. Two clubs on two different machines with the same clamp can even come out with a 10 cpm difference which is why CPM's are hard to go by. Other variables are of course head used/head weight, finished length and even grip model will affect CPM.

According to my fitting chafts, the Quarda Fire Express 65 Stiff at 45" with a 200g Nickent 4DX Revolver 9* head and Golf Pride Tour Velvet weighing 51.5g CPM's out in Japan at around 262. Based on the charts I have, I am guessing around a 10-12 cpm difference for US measurements (I'm guessing this based on 150 shafts I have data for and some of which I actually CPMed in Canada to compare) So 252cpm for the Stiff 65 which after cut weight is 62.8g. Just a note as well, back spin on that combo was measured at 2405rpm and a launch angle of 14.4*, apex of 29.0 yards and total distance of 265.5 yards.

For comparison, Crazy Longest Yard 01 Stiff CPM's in Japan at 277 cpm with the same head and grip at 45" on the same machine (I'm guessing 262-265 US CPM) and this is for a 50g range shaft producing 2485rpm of back spin and total distance of 265.8 yards.

In my data, the Fire Express 65 and the LY-01 are the longest shafts.

This is a small sampling so I do not have data for every flex ie SX and X... but it gives an idea.

[pabsquid]

T-

During my shaft search process you mentioned going with the X flex option for everything (Kai'li 80, Kai'li 70, 9003X, etc.) but mentioned going with the SX instead if I chose the Quadra Fire Express. In general, do you think the Quadra comes stiffer than industry trends or is it just because they offer this SX "gap-shaft" and I'm on the lower end of X with a driver SS of 115? With 80T dispersion with good length, it's hard to not be intrigued with this shaft!