To my knowledge, the Mizuno MP-14 was the last high volume production iron manufactured with proper lofts. Does anybody know of something I may have missed?

The whole four-wedge thing is a reult of 48, 47, 46, and even 45º pitching wedges, and I for one just don't get it. It's not just a matter of the clubs being numbered differently, of course. To make a traditional eight-iron out of a modern nine-iron, even ignoring the stamping, you'd still have to go flatter and longer, right?


I love the MP-57 iron, but if you bend the lofts to match the MP-14s, you add unwanted bounce.


It almost seems like the best answer is to find MP-14 eight and nine irons in good enough shape to rechrome and add to the MP-57 set.
One shouldn't need as much forgiveness with eight and nine irons, I suppose.


As a senior whose game is going in the wrong direction, I like carrying shot-specific utilities like a driving iron (when I don't play long irons from the fairway) and a dedicated, non-turf useable sand iron which fall outside of the standard loft progression of my set. The excessively strong short irons make it hard to keep to fourteen clubs.

This post has been edited by NiftyNiblick: Oct 11 2008, 08:52 AM

I'm not sure you have posted in the correct section, however...

I have been on about this subject for the last 3 years. My point of view is simply the marketing departments of the club manufacturers have constantly reduced the lofts of the various clubs to say to the public "my 5 iron is longer than yours".

A couple of points come out of this:
1) Your 5 iron IS longer than mine but that is because yours is a 3 iron stamped 5 iron
2) The average club golfer struggles with longer irons
3) Personally I have also had problems getting distance control on the shorter irons. The simple reason is that the modern sets strong lofts on short irons are simply wrong
4) Tiger woods irons are traditional lofts or there abouts

The tricky part with all of this of course is if you like the latest verson of Mizuno but want the right lofts in your short irons, the only solution is a combination set.

I played MP 11s for sixteen years with pretty close to traditional lofts and they were simply great.

You're right, Jack.
I accidentally posted in the wrong place.

Sorry, admn.

You're right, Jack.
I accidentally posted in the wrong place.

Sorry, admn.