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Droopy
post Jul 5 2008, 09:46 AM
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I'd like to get a new shaft for my Gold's Factory putter. I got the standard shaft when I received the putter. While I'm happy with the putter, after 10 rounds, I'm still NOT used to it and my putting has suffered severely.

I'm hoping that add a little weight to the shaft will help. Anyone know how heavy my current shaft is? Which Nippon shaft should I get?

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post Jul 6 2008, 07:59 AM
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The standard shaft in your putter should be around 120g if I'm not mistaken.

What kind of putting issues are you having exactly? Do you find you're pulling the ball a bit or having trouble keeping it on line?

One of the things with the Gold's putters is that the heavy head can actually throw some players off. The head in mine is 365g and can feel very heavy which can actually affect the putting stroke. A heavier shaft would balance that out.

For example my Gold's has the FF shaft in it which is like 107g, paired with the 365g head is like swinging a sledgehammer (^_^). So I had a Balance Certified 30g weight but in the butt which really evened out the weight and allowed me to putt more smoothly.

The heavier NS Pro shafts would accomplish a similar result.
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post Jul 7 2008, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (gocchin @ Jul 7 2008, 01:59 AM) *
So I had a Balance Certified 30g weight but in the butt which really evened out the weight and allowed me to putt more smoothly.

The heavier NS Pro shafts would accomplish a similar result.


This will sound like blasphemy.....but I picked up a Ping Karsten center shafted mini-mallet that is face-balanced and works well with my back-and-through stroke. The only problem I had with it was it swing weighted to E1 which is MUCH heavier that I was used to. I put a 30g counter-balance weight in the butt and got it down to D3 and the difference was dramatic. It took the hands out of the stroke and putts hold the line better, plus they're going where I'm aiming. Distance control is also very consistent. I would never have thought counter-balancing would be as effective as it is.

I have seen some guys using 50-70g but they say that also deadens the feel somewhat. The 30g weight did not take away from the feel but greatly added to the control. Definately worth a try, and easier than replacing the shaft.
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post Jul 7 2008, 01:00 PM
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The main issue is that the sweet spot of the putter doesn't seem to be directly in the center of the insert. It's a little bit toward the heel. My putter head is 352 so it weighs exactly the same as my old Tour Scotty. On the Tour Scotty, the sweet spot was a little towards the toe. Maybe that's why my putting has suffered... I'm just having trouble adjusting.

That's why I wanted to change it up with a heavier putter shaft. I'm not sure that'll do much...just looking to try anything...

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QUOTE (gocchin @ Jul 7 2008, 01:59 AM) *
The standard shaft in your putter should be around 120g if I'm not mistaken.

What kind of putting issues are you having exactly? Do you find you're pulling the ball a bit or having trouble keeping it on line?

One of the things with the Gold's putters is that the heavy head can actually throw some players off. The head in mine is 365g and can feel very heavy which can actually affect the putting stroke. A heavier shaft would balance that out.

For example my Gold's has the FF shaft in it which is like 107g, paired with the 365g head is like swinging a sledgehammer (^_^). So I had a Balance Certified 30g weight but in the butt which really evened out the weight and allowed me to putt more smoothly.

The heavier NS Pro shafts would accomplish a similar result.

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post Jul 7 2008, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE (Droopy @ Jul 7 2008, 05:00 PM) *
The main issue is that the sweet spot of the putter doesn't seem to be directly in the center of the insert. It's a little bit toward the heel. My putter head is 352 so it weighs exactly the same as my old Tour Scotty. On the Tour Scotty, the sweet spot was a little towards the toe. Maybe that's why my putting has suffered... I'm just having trouble adjusting.

That's why I wanted to change it up with a heavier putter shaft. I'm not sure that'll do much...just looking to try anything...

Droopy


I've never tried the Gold's insert only PZ milling but its interesting to know that the sweet spot is towards the heel because that is exactly where it was as well on the old G-Field Premium Zones. Hmmmm I need to think about how you can adjust to this....
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post Jul 8 2008, 07:35 AM
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Have you tried a club fitter using the Tomi putting system? I am not in any way affliated with Tomi (although I am considering buying their consumer version). My club fitter and I have worked with the Pro version of the system the last couple of weeks on 3 putters including my latest GF.

For me at least, if the lie angle is too upright, I somehow compensate on my forward stroke and hit it towards the heel of the putter. If the lie angle is too flat, I tend to hit it on the toe. Here is my experience with my GF I got last Saturday:

The putter was too head heavy so I had it first adjsusted for balance by adding weight to the butt. Then I went to test the putter on the Tomi Pro system. As it came, I was hitting it a bit on the toe. It was about 3-4mm towards the toe and I was doing this 3 out of 5 tries (the Tomi measures 5 putts). My club fitter adjusted the lie angle one degree upright. On the Tomi, I started hitting it on the heel 3-4mm 3 out of 5 times. The next adjustment was half a degree flatter. Lo and behold, the Tomi system measured (and displayed this on a PC screen) that I hit the sweet spot once. 2 out of 5 were on the heel about 1-2mm off from center). 2 out of 5 were on the toe (again 1-2mm towards the toe). So I ended up with the putter half a degree upright from stock.

I have no idea if this works for everyone but for me it seems to give me the confidence I need. My golf Buddy went 2 weeks ago and adjusted his putter for the lie angle (one degree upright). That was all my club fitter did for him and he did not do any practice putts. We went down to play 2 days ago and he was draining his 8 foot putts. This is a guy who is dependable to miss everything right from anywhere more than 4 feet. I did screw my club fitter for adjusting my buddy's putter too well.

My 2 cents worth...

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post Jul 17 2008, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (foosp @ Jul 8 2008, 10:35 PM) *
Have you tried a club fitter using the Tomi putting system? I am not in any way affliated with Tomi (although I am considering buying their consumer version). My club fitter and I have worked with the Pro version of the system the last couple of weeks on 3 putters including my latest GF.

For me at least, if the lie angle is too upright, I somehow compensate on my forward stroke and hit it towards the heel of the putter. If the lie angle is too flat, I tend to hit it on the toe. Here is my experience with my GF I got last Saturday:

The putter was too head heavy so I had it first adjsusted for balance by adding weight to the butt. Then I went to test the putter on the Tomi Pro system. As it came, I was hitting it a bit on the toe. It was about 3-4mm towards the toe and I was doing this 3 out of 5 tries (the Tomi measures 5 putts). My club fitter adjusted the lie angle one degree upright. On the Tomi, I started hitting it on the heel 3-4mm 3 out of 5 times. The next adjustment was half a degree flatter. Lo and behold, the Tomi system measured (and displayed this on a PC screen) that I hit the sweet spot once. 2 out of 5 were on the heel about 1-2mm off from center). 2 out of 5 were on the toe (again 1-2mm towards the toe). So I ended up with the putter half a degree upright from stock.

I have no idea if this works for everyone but for me it seems to give me the confidence I need. My golf Buddy went 2 weeks ago and adjusted his putter for the lie angle (one degree upright). That was all my club fitter did for him and he did not do any practice putts. We went down to play 2 days ago and he was draining his 8 foot putts. This is a guy who is dependable to miss everything right from anywhere more than 4 feet. I did screw my club fitter for adjusting my buddy's putter too well.

My 2 cents worth...

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foosp


Hi! Mind telling me where to get this done? Are you in Singapore? I am meaning to bring my new bettinardi to make some adjustments. Thanks
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post Jul 17 2008, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (Droopy @ Jul 7 2008, 01:00 PM) *
The main issue is that the sweet spot of the putter doesn't seem to be directly in the center of the insert. It's a little bit toward the heel.

Droopy


Have you used any impact tape on the Putter to see exactly where you are striking it?
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post Jul 24 2008, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (gbs @ Jul 17 2008, 05:41 PM) *
Hi! Mind telling me where to get this done? Are you in Singapore? I am meaning to bring my new bettinardi to make some adjustments. Thanks

Hi gbs

Yes I am in Singapore. I have it done at Jimmy Aw's shop at Tanjong Pagar in Singapore. The name of the shop is Golf Master Works. If you need the telephone and address, let me know and I will pm that to you.

Jimmy is an excellent clubfitter but if you expect friendly service, forget it. He is straight & to the point and does not waste much on small talk. The putter fitting was excellent if not for anything but to let you know what you are doing with the putter.

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Impact tape is a good idea and tinker with the weighting, sometimes heavier isn't better.

How long is the putter? What are your misses? What do you really think is going on?

Main thing is to play with a putter that helps your game, we can also get Master Sasaya's input on this matter for you.
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post Jul 29 2008, 09:25 AM
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Yes, I was consistently striking right around the center. When I purposely hit toward the heel, that's when the feel was best.

QUOTE (idrive @ Jul 18 2008, 12:57 AM) *
Have you used any impact tape on the Putter to see exactly where you are striking it?

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