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Master Sasaya's PZ Insert Alternative |
Dec 4 2007, 08:34 AM
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Ultra High End Golf Equipment Specialist ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 6,849 Joined: 10-October 03 From: Japan, Hawaii, Italy Member No.: 18 Occupation: TSG Specialist Brand of Choice: Epon What's in the Bag?: Check Out My Sig! |
In the quest to make the PZ Insert more affordable Master Sasaya has created a way to keep the same performance, roll and feel as that expensive premium zone insert style he builds.
Its simply milling the exact same measurements to the entire surface of the face itself. This version is more than 50% more affordable than the insert version. (IMG:http://www.tourspecgolf.com/gallery/main.php/d/20203-2/0712030006.JPG) (IMG:http://www.tourspecgolf.com/gallery/main.php/d/20200-2/0712030008wd.jpg) |
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Dec 4 2007, 09:49 AM
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TSG Pro Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Henderson Nv/St George Ut Member No.: 9,287 Quote: Flat left - Bent right Occupation: Golf nut Handicap: 3 Brand of Choice: Epon - Gold's Factory - Tourstage - Adidas What's in the Bag?: Which One?? |
I kind of thought it was just a matter of time before this happened.
and I thought I was thru buying Putters.... looks like the drawing board is going to be busy again... Sadly, I have to know if one is going to feel better than the other. Actually can't imagine it could be much better but only one way to find out!!!! |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:08 AM
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TSG Jr Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Chicago Member No.: 4,005 Brand of Choice: Epon What's in the Bag?: Epon 460 9.5 w/ Japan Diamana Whiteboard Stiff Epon AF-201 3-Wood w/ Mach Line FW75 Stiff TaylorMade V-Steel 7-Wood Tourhead w/Fuji ZCOM Pro 80 Mizuno JPX E500 4-PW w/ Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Epon AF 56, 60 w/ Nippon NS Pro 1150 Stiff Softstepped 1X Custom Gold's Factory PS#2 w/ Premium Zone Insert |
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Dec 4 2007, 12:40 PM
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TSG Active Member Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 26-March 06 From: Denmark - Europe Member No.: 7,791 Quote: Always looking for the perfect JAPAN FORGED club...... Occupation: Private investor & day dreamer ;-) Handicap: LOW! Brand of Choice: Scratch, Miura, Bettinardi, Epon, Srixon, Cally, TM & Titty |
WOW - this is just like the RIFE putter grooves are made:
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Number of downloads: 0If the more traditional way makes a softer better feeling putter, I would surely will pay that bit extra to get the best of the best - but on the positive side, the new way of making the premium zone grooves means that you won't see the 4 ugly screws in the cavity of the putter - this is definitely a step forward from a designers point of view. Is it possible to ask Master Sasaya what he thinks will feel better of the two - the PZ insert or the PZ stamping on the face of the putter ? |
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Dec 4 2007, 08:57 PM
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TSG Pro Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Henderson Nv/St George Ut Member No.: 9,287 Quote: Flat left - Bent right Occupation: Golf nut Handicap: 3 Brand of Choice: Epon - Gold's Factory - Tourstage - Adidas What's in the Bag?: Which One?? |
Don't look back... You will have no regrets.... get ready for the best Putter on the Planet... I don't know why but I think the insert looks better and is going to have the best feel of the two Putters... I like the look of the little screws... |
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Dec 4 2007, 10:53 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,112 Joined: 11-June 07 From: The P.I. Member No.: 10,550 Quote: persistence is all i am about Occupation: manufacturer Brand of Choice: Epon |
i am glad i havent pulled the trigger yet. big time savings!
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Dec 4 2007, 11:27 PM
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TSG Jr Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Chicago Member No.: 4,005 Brand of Choice: Epon What's in the Bag?: Epon 460 9.5 w/ Japan Diamana Whiteboard Stiff Epon AF-201 3-Wood w/ Mach Line FW75 Stiff TaylorMade V-Steel 7-Wood Tourhead w/Fuji ZCOM Pro 80 Mizuno JPX E500 4-PW w/ Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Epon AF 56, 60 w/ Nippon NS Pro 1150 Stiff Softstepped 1X Custom Gold's Factory PS#2 w/ Premium Zone Insert |
Heh heh, I was just joking. I completely agree with you, I've never played an insert in my life but I love the way Sasaya-san's insert looks. I actually like the screws too!
Don't look back... You will have no regrets.... get ready for the best Putter on the Planet... I don't know why but I think the insert looks better and is going to have the best feel of the two Putters... I like the look of the little screws... |
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Dec 5 2007, 11:23 AM
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TSG Active Member Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 26-March 06 From: Denmark - Europe Member No.: 7,791 Quote: Always looking for the perfect JAPAN FORGED club...... Occupation: Private investor & day dreamer ;-) Handicap: LOW! Brand of Choice: Scratch, Miura, Bettinardi, Epon, Srixon, Cally, TM & Titty |
i am glad i havent pulled the trigger yet. big time savings! A BIG TIME DITTO from me on that (IMG:style_emoticons/TSG_Smileys/tsg_smiley_putter2.gif) But if the original insert way feels better, then I can live with the 4 screws in the cavity.....if not, then I'll be happy to loose the 4 screws and get some flashy blue Golds circles in the cavity to spice up the overall design of this fantastic putter - I will probably go for 3 flashy blue Gold's Factory circles like these:
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Dec 9 2007, 04:53 PM
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TSG Amateur Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 6,530 Handicap: 22 Brand of Choice: Tourstage What's in the Bag?: Tourstage 06 ViQ 9.5 / Tour AD W6o R-Flex Tourstage 08 ViQ 10.5 / OEM Stiff Mizuno MPCraft 425 9.5 / OEM Quad 7 Stiff Tourstage ViQ #3 Fwy, OEM Stiff Tourstage ViQ #5 Fwy, OEM Stiff Tourstage X-Drive #3 Fwy, Tour AD W60 R-Flex Tourstage X-Drive #5 Fwy, Tour AD W60 R-Flex Tourstage ViQ #4 Utility / Tour AD UT85 R-flex Tourstage ViQ #5 Utility NSPro 900 Tourstage ViQ Forged NS90V Ai Miyazato Specs. 5-PW Tourstage 06 ViQ Iron 5-PS / NSPro 900 Vokey 56/ 60 / Accra Steel (Joe Kwok Grind) Fourteen J-Spec 50/54/58 / NSPro 950 Wedge Flex SC Futura J-Spec 33"/350gm Bettinardi PX-5 Mallet Bettinarid XR2.0 Mallet Mizuno/Bettinarid C-02H |
Question, if my exsiting putter has just the mill marks, Can I send it back to Sasaya-San to get it milled with the grooves??
I like the insert but it's out of my price range?? Lastly, Can I change my flat black finish to something like Teflon Black?? Does Teflon back require periodic milling?? |
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Dec 9 2007, 05:27 PM
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TSG Pro Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Henderson Nv/St George Ut Member No.: 9,287 Quote: Flat left - Bent right Occupation: Golf nut Handicap: 3 Brand of Choice: Epon - Gold's Factory - Tourstage - Adidas What's in the Bag?: Which One?? |
Chris is the one to have the exact answer, but...
You can send your Putter back to the Master and have whatever you want to have done, added/done to the Putter. I don't believe any of the Masters Putters require periodic milling unless you are using the Putter to the point of needing refinishing. I have played no less than 80+ rounds with my gamer, practiced extensively, and it is still in excellent condition. Granted I take care of my Putter, it is very durable. This is the one club that if you get done right, (and I have) that you will be the most happy with. Worth every dime spent and then some. Can you tell I love my Golds Putters??????????? |
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Dec 9 2007, 05:47 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,112 Joined: 11-June 07 From: The P.I. Member No.: 10,550 Quote: persistence is all i am about Occupation: manufacturer Brand of Choice: Epon |
Chris is the one to have the exact answer, but... You can send your Putter back to the Master and have whatever you want to have done, added/done to the Putter. I don't believe any of the Masters Putters require periodic milling unless you are using the Putter to the point of needing refinishing. I have played no less than 80+ rounds with my gamer, practiced extensively, and it is still in excellent condition. Granted I take care of my Putter, it is very durable. This is the one club that if you get done right, (and I have) that you will be the most happy with. Worth every dime spent and then some. Can you tell I love my Golds Putters??????????? we know you love them:) this new milled premium zone style may be the ticket hopefully after closing my eyes and pulling the trigger i will save money on the long run by not upgrading my putters every month... |
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Dec 9 2007, 05:56 PM
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TSG Pro Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Henderson Nv/St George Ut Member No.: 9,287 Quote: Flat left - Bent right Occupation: Golf nut Handicap: 3 Brand of Choice: Epon - Gold's Factory - Tourstage - Adidas What's in the Bag?: Which One?? |
we know you love them:) this new milled premium zone style may be the ticket hopefully after closing my eyes and pulling the trigger i will save money on the long run by not upgrading my putters every month... C, I made a post a while back that says something to the fact that you will not be buying any more Putters once you get one made for you, to your specs, with the PZ insert or now the PZ milled face, by the Master. (IMG:style_emoticons/TSG_Smileys/tsg_smilie_love.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/TSG_Smileys/tsg_smiley_putter2.gif) |
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Dec 9 2007, 06:00 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,112 Joined: 11-June 07 |