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Nippon Shafts vs. True Temper Tour Concept |
Aug 6 2007, 09:43 PM
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TSG Super Rookie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 2-July 07 Member No.: 10,685 Occupation: Sales Handicap: 16 Brand of Choice: Miura What's in the Bag?: Tourstage X-Drive 460P (Limited Edition) Cobra Pro 13* - Fujikura Speeder Pro G Field Utility #2 (Rombax 8D07HB) On-Off 247 Tour 3-PW - DG S300 Chikara Prototype 52* Wedge Chikara 57* Wedge G Field Premium Zone #1 |
Anyone compare the True Temper Tour Concepts to the Nippons? I have a set of Miura Tournament Blades with the Tour Concept shafts and was thinking about changing them out. No particular reason, I just see that a lot of people are using the Nippons and thought it may be a good idea to take them for a spin. Any feedback would be great since the shafts are not cheap. Thanks.
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Aug 7 2007, 08:03 AM
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TSG Whiz Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: 6-July 05 Member No.: 5,791 |
Both are as good as it gets. I have both in many sets; soft feel and wonderful control. Six in one and half dozen in the other if you ask me. Just as an FYI; I play X-flex in the Nippon 1150's and S3's in the TC's. I will never ever use anything but these two options (unless they stop making them!).
This post has been edited by BigBen: Aug 7 2007, 08:04 AM |
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Aug 7 2007, 11:40 AM
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TSG Expert ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 983 Joined: 19-July 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 5,882 |
I've the 1150GH Tour in the GD NC-1s and TC S3 in the GD MBs. The S3 is a few grams heavier. Feel on both are almost the same. Ball flight with the S3 is a bit flatter. As for distance, the S3 is about 5-7 yards longer (152 versus 145/146). For unknown reason(s), I pulled/hooked the S3 more than the 1150 ... may be due to flatter ball flight. Both are wonderful shafts. Black/Gold is the next shaft I want to try.
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Aug 7 2007, 05:55 PM
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TSG Caddie Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 10-July 07 From: San Francisco Member No.: 10,855 Quote: ... one shot at a time. Occupation: Product Marketing Manager Handicap: 15 Brand of Choice: Yururi, KZG, Infiniti, Sonartec, Edel What's in the Bag?: Driver: Infiniti PFD 360 10.5 - Fuji Vista Pro 60 Woods: 3W Sonartec SS-07 - Fuji Tour Platform, 5W ZT Crown Jewel Fairway - Fuji Vista Pro 80 Rescue: 7W La Jolla Knife - Apache MFS 30+ Irons: 3i, 5i, 7i, 9i KZG Forged II-M - Fuji Vista Pro 90 Wedges: 52W KZG Forged - Royal Precision Spinners, 57W & 61W Yururi Black Raw - AeroTech i125 Putter: David Edel - Columbia Grips: Winn PCi Half Cords Shafts are all in PCS 5.5, except for putter All woods and driver are Balanced Certified with 20g weights |
Whatever you do ... do yourself a favor and try the AeroTech Steelfibers before deciding. Fantastic iron shaft in my opinion for the money and results.
I'm about to replace my trusty Fuji Vista Pro's with these and that's after having tried the Rifle Project X's and Nippons. The best of both worlds really with graphite AND steel combining for a great shaft. |
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Aug 8 2007, 09:47 PM
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TSG Master ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,027 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Southern California Member No.: 7,973 Quote: Don't give up . . . Don't ever give up! - Jim Valvano Brand of Choice: TourStage, Epon What's in the Bag?: TSG Ho Stuff |
I'd have to concur with BigBen. My X-blades have the 1150's in x-stiff and I really like them. I have a Tour Concept S3 in the Epon 3 iron. I did it just to give the shaft a shot. I like it. Works well in the set. Still getting accustomed to it. In my opinion, can't go wrong with the 1150's. Absolutely superb shaft. Solidly set in the bag.
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Aug 8 2007, 09:52 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,112 Joined: 11-June 07 From: The P.I. Member No.: 10,550 Quote: persistence is all i am about Occupation: manufacturer Brand of Choice: Epon |
i chose the tc r3 for my epon x as oppossed to the nspro 1150. for me i like the additional weight of the tc but find it a bit taxing to use as i am not accustomed to something this hefty. previous experiences were all with graphs and rifle 90 shafts. overall i love the tc and they look trick to. i noticed that my ball flight has a more piercing trajectory compared to my other shafts and distance gained is about 5-7 yards over previous ones.
i am yet to try the 1150s and i will most likely try some in the next few months. been also curious about the black golds and have newly installed ones in my old mx23. will go to test in range later and see what all the hype is about |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:18 PM
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TSG Master ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,027 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Southern California Member No.: 7,973 Quote: Don't give up . . . Don't ever give up! - Jim Valvano Brand of Choice: TourStage, Epon What's in the Bag?: TSG Ho Stuff |
i chose the tc r3 for my epon x as oppossed to the nspro 1150. for me i like the additional weight of the tc but find it a bit taxing to use as i am not accustomed to something this hefty. previous experiences were all with graphs and rifle 90 shafts. overall i love the tc and they look trick to. i noticed that my ball flight has a more piercing trajectory compared to my other shafts and distance gained is about 5-7 yards over previous ones. i am yet to try the 1150s and i will most likely try some in the next few months. been also curious about the black golds and have newly installed ones in my old mx23. will go to test in range later and see what all the hype is about Have yet to try the Black Golds in the "regular" iron shafts, but in wedges, they're UNREAL!! Just perfect. |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:25 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,112 Joined: 11-June 07 From: The P.I. Member No.: 10,550 Quote: persistence is all i am about Occupation: manufacturer Brand of Choice: Epon |
Have yet to try the Black Golds in the "regular" iron shafts, but in wedges, they're UNREAL!! Just perfect. i have your reviews on the black gold + wedge combo memorized. i have an extra piece of black golds that i am planning to put on my mx25 sw but will likely not as i hardly ever use stock wedges of my irons. will get the BGS when i get 52/56 epon x wedges in the distant future |
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Aug 25 2007, 05:42 AM
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TSG Active Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-December 03 Member No.: 756 |
I've played Dynamic Golds, Rifles, Nippon 950 and 1150, and Tour Concepts. My favorite? By far, it's the True Temper Black Golds. In my hands they seem to have the control of the Dynamic Golds, but with much more feel and smoothness, like the Nippons. Both the Tour Concepts and Nippons gave me problems with distance control. The Black Golds have allowed me the best distance and directional accuracy I've ever experienced, with a nice, smooth, controlled kick that gives highly predictable distances. I now have them in my Scratch wedges, Wishon 560 MC irons, and I've reshafted my Mizuno MP UX 2 hybrids from Nippon to Black Golds, too. I have gotten far greater consistency and accuracy with the Black Golds on my Mizuno hybrids than I ever got with the Nippon 950's.
This post has been edited by dorkman53: Aug 25 2007, 05:45 AM |
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Aug 25 2007, 05:49 AM
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TSG Expert Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: 12-October 03 Member No.: 116 |
I play PX and I love them. I've only tested BGs. I would probably switch if BGs came in around 115 grams like my PX 5.5s.
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Aug 25 2007, 06:22 AM
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TSG Active Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-December 03 Member No.: 756 |
I play PX and I love them. I've only tested BGs. I would probably switch if BGs came in around 115 grams like my PX 5.5s. Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention that I also tried a set of Project X's, too. I found that they felt great on a perfectly hit shot. They really have to be "ground loaded" by a sharply descending blow. I hit with a shallower angle of attack, and take a smaller divot, so they really didn't load properly some of the time. On a mis-hit, they are VERY harsh feeling; much worse than Dynamic Golds. |
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Aug 25 2007, 10:26 AM
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Ultra High End Golf Equipment Specialist ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 6,849 Joined: 10-October 03 From: Japan, Hawaii, Italy Member No.: 18 Occupation: TSG Specialist Brand of Choice: Epon What's in the Bag?: Check Out My Sig! |
It really depends on the type of swing you have, Strikers with an aggressive tempo and transition usually do better with S300, S400, X100, Black Gold, Tour Concepts while the aggressive tempo with smooth transition would do best IMO with S200 S300 SL and NS1150.
Slower swingers will really enjoy NS850 and NS950 and 1050. |
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Aug 25 2007, 05:46 PM
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TSG Master Group: Members Posts: 1,320 Joined: 14-May 05 From: Australia Member No.: 5,555 Quote: A bad day at golf is better than a good day at work Occupation: Company Director Handicap: 12 Brand of Choice: Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Driver: Taylor TP 510 8.5* Mitsubishi Rayon TP-85 MT 3 Wood: Epon Technicity 15* Diamana 83S Utilities: Mizuno UX-2 20* Nippon 1150 S Mizuno UX-2 23* Nippon 1150 S Irons: 4 - PW: Gauge Studio Hand Mades Nippon 1150S Wedges: Gauge Studio Hand Mades Nippon 1150 S Putter: Bettinardi BB2 (sugar filled shaft) Bag: Mizuno Kabuki Ball: Titleist Pro V1 |
I've played Dynamic Golds, Rifles, Nippon 950 and 1150, and Tour Concepts. My favorite? By far, it's the True Temper Black Golds. In my hands they seem to have the control of the Dynamic Golds, but with much more feel and smoothness, like the Nippons. Both the Tour Concepts and Nippons gave me problems with distance control. The Black Golds have allowed me the best distance and directional accuracy I've ever experienced, with a nice, smooth, controlled kick that gives highly predictable distances. I now have them in my Scratch wedges, Wishon 560 MC irons, and I've reshafted my Mizuno MP UX 2 hybrids from Nippon to Black Golds, too. I have gotten far greater consistency and accuracy with the Black Golds on my Mizuno hybrids than I ever got with the Nippon 950's. Interesting point you make with the hybrids. I have the stock Nippon 950 in mine, however it is the wrong shaft. I was thinking along the lines of replacing it with a GD 95 hybrid. I'm really interested in the difference the BG has made as the 950 feels weak to me. |
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