J-Spec Shaft Reference Guide, Weight, Torque, CPM, Launch Angle, Backspin, Apex |
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J-Spec Shaft Reference Guide, Weight, Torque, CPM, Launch Angle, Backspin, Apex |
Dec 10 2006, 11:54 AM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
I've put together some useful info on how different J-Spec shafts perform.
This chart can be used as a generic guide to give you an idea on each shaft's characteristics. People always ask about finished CPM and spin and so on so here's some info. The data is from earlier this year so it's missing a few newer shafts, but I'll try and update it as I get more info. (IMG:http://www.inpakuto.com/scans/shafts.png) |
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Dec 10 2006, 12:27 PM
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TSG Expert Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 27-June 06 From: Toronto (sometime Hong Kong) Member No.: 8,082 Quote: Swing Easy and Swing Freely (personal swing thought) Handicap: 13.0 Brand of Choice: Miura/ Matsumoto/Epon What's in the Bag?: Bag #1 Epon AF101 with Machline 7061 Proto Miura 5W with Machline 7061 Honma Duel Attack 19* Lepon 23* w/Machline 65 Matsumoto 4-pw with AXIV Graphite Epon 50* AW Yururi 57* SW Hiro Matsumoto MG 8 / Whitlam Devon SPI-3 |
Great Info T but what is Ball Apex?
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Dec 10 2006, 12:38 PM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
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Dec 10 2006, 07:10 PM
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TSG Expert Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 12-October 03 Member No.: 116 |
Great info....must've been tough to keep regripping...."using the same 51 gram grip" :)
I was looking to pick up the PT7 X after experiencing that the PT6 stiff is too soft. Looks like it's a good thing I didn't get it. |
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Dec 10 2006, 07:44 PM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
Great info....must've been tough to keep regripping...."using the same 51 gram grip" :) I was looking to pick up the PT7 X after experiencing that the PT6 stiff is too soft. Looks like it's a good thing I didn't get it. Why do you say that? The PT-7 X CPM is 15 higher than the PT-6 S and with a bit less torque would definitely feel stiffer. Is it the lower launch angle? What did you end up going for? :tsg_smilie_smile: This post has been edited by gocchin: Dec 10 2006, 07:53 PM |
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Dec 11 2006, 06:25 AM
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TSG Whiz Group: Members Posts: 371 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Europe - Hungary Member No.: 86 |
Great post........ great information... thanks for taking the time.
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Dec 11 2006, 06:50 PM
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TSG Expert Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 12-October 03 Member No.: 116 |
Why do you say that? The PT-7 X CPM is 15 higher than the PT-6 S and with a bit less torque would definitely feel stiffer. Is it the lower launch angle? What did you end up going for? :tsg_smilie_smile: I was looking for something around half a flex stiffer than the PT6 and maybe a tad less spin. I already have a lowish flight but spin the ball quite a bit, I tend to cast the club when I'm off. The PT7X is still there in the proshop begging for me to buy it already. I was going to put it in a HS9 that I have been eyeing, but so far reshafts have not been good in that comp head. I'll waiting for the Sumo to be out then. About 5 guys have played it and have said it is worth the wait. Keep up the great posts. We need contibutors like you on this site. |
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Dec 11 2006, 07:17 PM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
I was looking for something around half a flex stiffer than the PT6 and maybe a tad less spin. I already have a lowish flight but spin the ball quite a bit, I tend to cast the club when I'm off. The PT7X is still there in the proshop begging for me to buy it already. I was going to put it in a HS9 that I have been eyeing, but so far reshafts have not been good in that comp head. I'll waiting for the Sumo to be out then. About 5 guys have played it and have said it is worth the wait. Keep up the great posts. We need contibutors like you on this site. Thanks for the compliment. I've come to the conclusion that when it comes to J-Spec gear like that it's all about education. We learn a lot on this site which is why we can make purchases a lot of the time without even seeing a product up front. Hopefully any info I post on this forum can help members make choices suited to their playing style and swing. :tsg_smilie_cool: This post has been edited by gocchin: Dec 11 2006, 07:56 PM |
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Dec 12 2006, 01:21 PM
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TSG Regular Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Norcal Member No.: 252 What's in the Bag?: TM 460 TP 9.5 VS Proto S SONARTEC SS07 15 Fuji TW 74 SONARTEC TRC 19 Fuji HM4 TM R7 TP 3 + 4 NS Pro Stiff TM R7 Forged 5-Pw NS Pro Stiff SONARTEC Proto 55* and 61* Grace M1 TOUR "heavy |
Thank You for the info,
I hope the members here can use it well. We here about the mantra of High Launch and Low spin, but the PGA Tour is using alot of Radar based Launch Monitors to measure carry distance AND Angle of descent. It is this combination of maximum carry and optimum angle of descent that produces the maximum distance for any initial launch conditions, ie Ball Speed+Launch Angle+Spin QUOTE People say "High launch, low spin" but don't know what it really means. For 90% of golfers, mid-launch and the right amount of spin will produce the longest drives. Tom Wishon was quoted in the December issue of Golf Digest that the optimum range for angle of descent is 35* to 42*, with 40* being a good target. However, he tested on a tournament ready track, using a Trackman. I don't think most muni tracks are set up to roll like that track. Could you explain this? Graphite Design Tour AD PT-5___Stiff___53.4___49.9___5.8___254___15.4___2338___30.6 Graphite Design Tour AD PT-7___Stiff___72.3___67.5___3.4___267___15.2___2347___39.9 The shaft with more weight, lower torque, higher CPM and lower launch-Apex's almost TEN yards higher??? What swing speed was used for the test? Cheers ICE |
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Dec 12 2006, 01:24 PM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
Graphite Design Tour AD PT-5___Stiff___53.4___49.9___5.8___254___15.4___2338___30.6 Graphite Design Tour AD PT-7___Stiff___72.3___67.5___3.4___267___15.2___2347___39.9 The shaft with more weight, lower torque, higher CPM and lower launch-Apex's almost TEN yards higher??? What swing speed was used for the test? Hehe typo! It's in fact 29.9. I thought I had made it through typing out all those numbers without making a mistake. Swing speed was between 95-100 mph. |
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Dec 12 2006, 01:30 PM
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TSG Regular Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Norcal Member No.: 252 What's in the Bag?: TM 460 TP 9.5 VS Proto S SONARTEC SS07 15 Fuji TW 74 SONARTEC TRC 19 Fuji HM4 TM R7 TP 3 + 4 NS Pro Stiff TM R7 Forged 5-Pw NS Pro Stiff SONARTEC Proto 55* and 61* Grace M1 TOUR "heavy |
Thanks
Now that makes sense!!! Looks like the PT-5 has some interesting possiblities. Pretty lowspin #'s for a shaft that launches that high. Torque number is a little too much. I did have some success with the SIX , its what - 5.6*? |
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Dec 12 2006, 11:09 PM
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TSG Caddie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 20-May 06 Member No.: 7,929 |
Great info. Are the frequencies measured with a 5" clamp?
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Dec 13 2006, 03:26 AM
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T the Japan Golf Gear and Cute Idol Expert ![]() Group: +Administrators Posts: 2,643 Joined: 29-August 06 From: JAPAN! Member No.: 8,383 Quote: Inpakuto Otaku Occupation: Golf Geek - Tech Guru Brand of Choice: Epon, Royal Collection, PRGR, Yamaha, Graphite Design, Gold's, Tourstage, Mizuno What's in the Bag?: Lots of stuff |
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